Personalized domain name

Comfort · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:13 am

I like the dash, it makes it look cool Smile

But yeah, it is a bit complicated, maybe... personally, I don't find it hard to type, just gets natural after a while Razz

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Char561 · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:53 am

well with most of these choices it is possible to do them without any dashes but that is just a matter of choice for us.

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Geromix · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:08 am

Ok i have changed the options and added many without dashes.

You can cancel your previous vote to vote for something new.

Poll open for 7 days.

A couple of more suggestions can be taken.

There is no hurry and i will be busy anyway.

Target made $20.

@techno_kids-Yes u know my arguments and this is rejected.

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Comfort · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:07 am

I re-vote www.aofgc.org

On another note, we're an alliance rather than a clan, so why www.aof-clan.org? It just doesn't make sense... scratch

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Char561 · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:57 am

@Geromix
you should reset the poll so people dont end up not knowing it changed and voting for something they dont like

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DualKatanas · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:22 pm

I voted aofgaming.org. It just sounds... better, somehow. I'm not saying the other options are bad, though.

Hopefully you'll get the cash, too bad I can't donate...

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DarkGhost · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:35 pm

Couldnt care less. if u want to waste the money on it go ahead but i dont see the point.

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Geromix · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Fri May 01, 2009 3:19 pm

DarkGhost wrote:

Couldnt care less. if u want to waste the money on it go ahead but i dont see the point.

It would better if u open a new thread stating why this is a waste of money and list all the arguments.

Give a better suggestion and then we will see.

No point in putting one liners like that which are frankly too rude.

If techno_kid is reading this then it is a suggestion for him as well along with Ghosty-There is Suggestion forum,pls put ur ideas and views in a separate thread and give good arguments on why this shouldn't be done.

There is 1 week for u guys to decide on this and sway peoples opinions including mine and most importantly the guys who will donate-char561 and others.

If it is a waste,pls say it properly.As i said we are not in a hurry and if ur arguments have merit they will be rewarded.

I expect a bit more effort,friends and u have to care, for if u don't then who will care? Sad

Regards
Geromix

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techno_kid · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Fri May 01, 2009 5:52 pm

I'm gunna shove all the possibilities i can think of as alternatives in here then (then people will receive notification if they have already posted). If someone wants to move the post feel free.

OPTION A
We could go for the domain name as you have suggested and pay for a .org or what ever TLD (top level domain eg .com .co.uk .us .org) you decide to choose. This obviously costs money and you should think about how many people can actually donate this amount of money just for a domain name. Also, does it bring any real benefits? Do people expect a gaming community to have a domain name of their own?

OPTION B
Similar to option A but using a .co.cc domain instead. I'm not 100% sure about how you could integrate individual page URLs (addresses) into this domain because you obviously haven't got much control over the way forumotion hosts these forums. Benefits are that it's obviously free (don't know if it's only for a year or not) and still looks fairly good.

OPTION C
I know certain administrators are going moan at me and i'm just saying this as another option so don't eat me...

Pay less for more! Look around for proper hosting and get a "proper" forum with a domain name and have complete control over everything. Benefits are it costs less for more and disadvantages maybe that you initially lose your posts. Have we got a strong enough community to restart the discussions elsewhere?

OPTION D
Do we really need a peronsal domain name or can we do without one? I touched on this before but do people think that non-profit organisations should be expected to pay out or can we accept that it's just not worth it for now. I might understand if we had 100,000 hits a day or something like that but we simply don't. On the other hand does it make us look unprofessional?

OPTION E
Does forumotion allow you to transfer domain names for free? Can you buy it elsewhere at a cheaper price and then transfer it to forumotion? It's something for the admin to have a look at but it could be a cheaper alternative.

CONCLUSION
Overall the question that should really be asked is whether or not we need it and this is something we need to decide on honestly. As a web designer clients always come to me with new ideas about their site but I have to ask them if it's worth them spending time and money on something which won't really give them any benefit. Is this the best course of action or is it just something to make us look cool?...

Char561 · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Sun May 03, 2009 4:36 am

Forumotion does not let you transfer the site to another site for free unless it is through them. I have no problem donating the 24$ but I am okay with whatever solution we come up with and I can help make it happen.

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mightybean · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Sun May 03, 2009 5:45 am

techno_kid wrote:

I'm gunna shove all the possibilities i can think of as alternatives in here then (then people will receive notification if they have already posted). If someone wants to move the post feel free.

OPTION A
We could go for the domain name as you have suggested and pay for a .org or what ever TLD (top level domain eg .com .co.uk .us .org) you decide to choose. This obviously costs money and you should think about how many people can actually donate this amount of money just for a domain name. Also, does it bring any real benefits? Do people expect a gaming community to have a domain name of their own?

OPTION B
Similar to option A but using a .co.cc domain instead. I'm not 100% sure about how you could integrate individual page URLs (addresses) into this domain because you obviously haven't got much control over the way forumotion hosts these forums. Benefits are that it's obviously free (don't know if it's only for a year or not) and still looks fairly good.

OPTION C
I know certain administrators are going moan at me and i'm just saying this as another option so don't eat me...

Pay less for more! Look around for proper hosting and get a "proper" forum with a domain name and have complete control over everything. Benefits are it costs less for more and disadvantages maybe that you initially lose your posts. Have we got a strong enough community to restart the discussions elsewhere?

OPTION D
Do we really need a peronsal domain name or can we do without one? I touched on this before but do people think that non-profit organisations should be expected to pay out or can we accept that it's just not worth it for now. I might understand if we had 100,000 hits a day or something like that but we simply don't. On the other hand does it make us look unprofessional?

OPTION E
Does forumotion allow you to transfer domain names for free? Can you buy it elsewhere at a cheaper price and then transfer it to forumotion? It's something for the admin to have a look at but it could be a cheaper alternative.

CONCLUSION
Overall the question that should really be asked is whether or not we need it and this is something we need to decide on honestly. As a web designer clients always come to me with new ideas about their site but I have to ask them if it's worth them spending time and money on something which won't really give them any benefit. Is this the best course of action or is it just something to make us look cool?...

The one overall issue is that looking for alternatives is just a hassle. Why bother looking for an easier way when we already have people willing to pay the money?

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Arch_Vile · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Sun May 03, 2009 7:00 am

i will try pay watever cost but i cant really guarantee it tho, as you know my views toward money and internet. btw i would suggest that we should have this name included www.AoF-GC.com it looks professional to me

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Geromix · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Mon May 04, 2009 5:58 pm

techno_kid wrote:

OPTION A
We could go for the domain name as you have suggested and pay for a .org or what ever TLD (top level domain eg .com .co.uk .us .org) you decide to choose. This obviously costs money and you should think about how many people can actually donate this amount of money just for a domain name. Also, does it bring any real benefits? Do people expect a gaming community to have a domain name of their own?

OPTION A-
It just happened.No i don't think people would have donated but char offered to donate and help and so the idea was put out here.

techno_kid wrote:

OPTION B
Similar to option A but using a .co.cc domain instead. I'm not 100% sure about how you could integrate individual page URLs (addresses) into this domain because you obviously haven't got much control over the way forumotion hosts these forums. Benefits are that it's obviously free (don't know if it's only for a year or not) and still looks fairly good.

OPTION B-
Was never ruled out,just wanted more info.
No i don't think it is possible to integrate individual pages.
The only thing i know is that it is free and there is a 1 year limit.But i don't know what is beyond that 1 year limit.

techno_kid wrote:

OPTION C
I know certain administrators are going moan at me and i'm just saying this as another option so don't eat me...

Pay less for more! Look around for proper hosting and get a "proper" forum with a domain name and have complete control over everything. Benefits are it costs less for more and disadvantages maybe that you initially lose your posts. Have we got a strong enough community to restart the discussions elsewhere?

OPTION C-
Most posts here are old.The number of posts are more of a badge of honor,showing off,-"Look we have 10000 posts etc"
I don't know how we can restart discussions or what you mean by that exactly.
But we could transfer old posts by copying it in case of a shift to any forum.

In hind sight it was good we didn't take the Void server forum deal because they have stopped its expansion,only 3 clans who first applied for it got it-NO,Saint and ESF.Others are still waiting.

In this Option C give me the best deal possible and then we can see....
(Also if you are giving features pls explain then properly because many here including me won't understand these features.)
The question would also be-What can do with all these features?
Say we have FTP,would we use it?
We need good coders etc and the community should be more active on forums to make this worth it.

I would love to have a paid forum but there are limitations,get a good deal and lets see what others got to say.

techno_kid wrote:

OPTION D
Do we really need a peronsal domain name or can we do without one? I touched on this before but do people think that non-profit organisations should be expected to pay out or can we accept that it's just not worth it for now. I might understand if we had 100,000 hits a day or something like that but we simply don't. On the other hand does it make us look unprofessional?

OPTION D-
Imo,it does make us look unprofessional.
But i am just being myself,a perfectionist,and therefore a personalized domain name sounds good to me.

techno_kid wrote:

OPTION E
Does forumotion allow you to transfer domain names for free? Can you buy it elsewhere at a cheaper price and then transfer it to forumotion? It's something for the admin to have a look at but it could be a cheaper alternative.

Yes,i think so.But this could have been changed,will have to look more closely.

techno_kid wrote:

CONCLUSION
Overall the question that should really be asked is whether or not we need it and this is something we need to decide on honestly. As a web designer clients always come to me with new ideas about their site but I have to ask them if it's worth them spending time and money on something which won't really give them any benefit. Is this the best course of action or is it just something to make us look cool?...

Yes,this is the question i often ask too,but in this case there is/are donor(s) and therefore this lost its relevance.

I would ask the same thing for Option C-
Can we pay for a paid forum?
Yes it will make us look cool,but who wouldn't want to be cool if one can afford it?
Very Happy

And the earlier question-
What are your dreams for this community in future or how do you envision it in the future?

Then i thought 300 members+ would be needed,but now i realize if we have 300 active guys we would become one of the largest clans out there in the world Shocked

and smaller clans much smaller than us still afford this.

Its about having quality members,more than quantity.

At the end of the day i can't decide on this,because it will be the donors/potential donors who will decide on this.

-Geromix

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techno_kid · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Mon May 04, 2009 7:45 pm

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OPTION B-
Was never ruled out, just wanted more info.
No i don't think it is possible to integrate individual pages.
The only thing i know is that it is free and there is a 1 year limit.But i don't know what is beyond that 1 year limit.

Your right, and you can't use page specific links so thats probably a bad option.

Quote:

OPTION C-
Most posts here are old.The number of posts are more of a badge of honor,showing off,-"Look we have 10000 posts etc"
I don't know how we can restart discussions or what you mean by that exactly.
But we could transfer old posts by copying it in case of a shift to any forum.

In hind sight it was good we didn't take the Void server forum deal because they have stopped its expansion,only 3 clans who first applied for it got it-NO,Saint and ESF.Others are still waiting.

In this Option C give me the best deal possible and then we can see....
(Also if you are giving features pls explain then properly because many here including me won't understand these features.)
The question would also be-What can do with all these features?
Say we have FTP, would we use it?
We need good coders etc and the community should be more active on forums to make this worth it.

I would love to have a paid forum but there are limitations, get a good deal and lets see what others got to say.

As for this, it all depends on how much you want to pay really. You can go for alot of options really but I would've said that the best option is something like £3 per month. That would give you sooooo much more than the sort of £1 a month scheme your going for. You'd only need one person to sort out the coding options etc. and they would find it easy to do if they have half a brain. Otherwise, it can all be done via a simple interface with buttons etc that is easy to understand by anyone at all. Features you would get and there uses are:

- Storage Space - Based on a general view of your forums you don't need much space for anything. Forums run on databases (which I'll cover later) so your posted don't get stored as files. This means all you need to store is pictures and the forum scripts (code). This takes very little storage at all. The plan I'm offering gives you plenty of room to expand.

- Traffic - Looking at the average daily visitor I have doubled it and then doubled it again to get you a safe level of monthly traffic allowance to keep the site online. Basically, every time someone loads a page it takes away a bit of your bandwidth and I've given you a very safe level in this plan.

- Subdomains - You probably won't need any of these unless you decide to split the forums by game (bad idea) but i've thrown 30 in for free.

- Email Addresses - If you want to look really professional admins could have access to email accounts such as admin@domain.com or no_reply@domain.com where domain is your domain name. You don't have to pay for these they are free up to 500 (more than enough).

- Database - This is where all your posts etc are stored and this is where the main strain will be placed on your website. I'm offering a MySQL database which is compatible with any forum script you may choose to use.

- FTP accounts - These used to change the code and add new files to the website. You might not use them but you can have 5 for free anyway.

- 24/7 Support - You will receive my mobile number and a support center number which you can contact in case of a problem. Ticketing systems are also in place online so that you can email us and receive a reply within the hour.

- Free Domain - This is available for a year and for prices after that are £5 a year for .org's.

£3 a month is less than cost price (I don't mind chipping in on this option) so I obviously can't go cheaper myself. It would also give you better stats, no ads, the option of your own other scripts eg. chat room, games etc, you could have ANY code you want not just bb and html which means you could edit the way things work with php (more advanced for people like me). You can also choose any theme from anywhere, not just from forumotion settings (including flash).

Doing this is also a good way to purge (be rid of) old inactive members since although we have 300+ members registered, I find it hard to beleive that they are all active when you see the amount of users online per day!

You would, as i have said before lose all your posts but you could keep this site going for a bit if you still needed them and just link back to here. You will however have much better security (people try to hack forumotion everyday and post exploits online. none have attacked my servers successfully and i fix all flaws immediatly).

If you want the best than this is it!

Char561 · Subject: Re: Personalized domain name Mon May 04, 2009 8:15 pm

Like I said before, I am willing to contribute to whatever we decide on doing. If we were to use this option we would need to make sure to have people willing to program all of the stuff we might want. I am willing to do some of this but I don't really have alot of time now.

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